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Quick Test: Are You Post-Progressive?

Are You Post-Progressive?
Take the Test

Take a 2-minute test of your post-progressivism, and see your “transcendence and inclusion score.”

This simple test asks you to select your level of agreement or disagreement with twelve political statements. The test results will indicate your inclusivity score, your transcendence score, and the overall extent of your post-progressive perspective.

Worldview Questionnaire

Worldview Questionnaire

What is your worldview? Take this 7-minute test and find out which “values frame” describes you best.

By answering these 17 questions you may learn more about your own worldview, as well as about the worldviews of others.

Character Development Exercise

Character Development Exercise

Become a better person through this brief exercise in character development—create your personal portrait of the good.

Answer 10 questions to create a personalized chart of what matters most to you. This chart—your Portrait of the Good—will be sent to your email address as a pdf file.

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“I am grateful for the post-progressive way of thinking. It was totally new to me, and now that I have been exposed to it, I think it is the way forward. It is the future. If there is a way out of this terrible culture war, I think it will be something along these lines. I love the idea of taking the best of the different worldviews and bringing them together into a more inclusive post-progressive worldview. This is a brilliant approach, and I am going to try to share it with as many people who are willing to listen to me as possible.”

– Lucas Chasin

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“Progressivism doesn’t work without a foundation of modernism and traditionalism. Post-Progressivism allows modernists and traditionalists to feel significant, to feel needed, and to have a foundational seat at the table. The reason I don’t identify as a progressive, even though I am a vegan, spiritual, conscious, burning man guy, is because I feel its rejection of these previous worldviews …”

– Thomas Waterman

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1 day ago

Are there any other UUs in this group? I've become concerned about increasing "mean green" authoritarianism in the national leadership. I'm considering approaching my minister (and ultimately more of the congregation) with some of my concerns, and I'd love to chat with others about how to do it in an empathic and effective way. I am pretty sure he is aligned with the antiracist approach. Interestingly I started becoming aware of this development at the national level because of my interest in Irshad Manji's work - she has talked with concerned UUs about some of it. I don't know any other integral UUs at this point and would love to find some! ... See MoreSee Less

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I can suggest this: I don't believe you will get to step one with any conversation. I believe UU is locked into 'mean green', and yes, I know exactly what you mean. All I can say is I no longer attend any UU , but hold no ill will at all. I just prefer the world of silence, or at least the world where I seldom share my view. I just don't feel the need but understand why you may want to engage in some discussion. Do I feel you will be heard? Nope, but I wish you the best and I 'mean' that. ( Pun Intended )

P.S. My former monastery is locked into 'mean grass also." Emphasis on former.

Integral UU here.

Tier 1 to Tier 2 consciousness, as you are aware, is a significant chasm to bridge. I have tried what I can with green UU's and postmodern Christians with little to no avail. But I remain hopeful. If you would like to discuss further sometime, I would be happy to.

🙏.

You have to appeal to the values of the stage you're speaking with. If you lead with honoring the compassion and inclusion that anti racist sentiment is built on, you can then widen the perspective to discuss how the righteous anger can divorce us from seeing the divine in all. It's terribly hard and nuanced, because righteousness is blinding. I know I've been victim to it. The righteous cause sees any deviation as an attempt to weaken the goal of righteous outcome. It's worth the effort though!

I'm not quite UU, but I'm an Interfaith minister in a somewhat similar kind of congregation, and this discussion is hard there, too. We've had folks leave because we are both not "mean green" and not blue enough. I do what I can to widen the tent, but it seems like as soon as folks from one side come in, it pushes out those from the other side. It's very discouraging. I don't know why people who are otherwise so interested in worshipping with religious "others" shut down as soon as political "others" are involved. I have no good advice for you, unfortunately, but I wish you all the best.

What is mean green?

What is an example of "mean green" behavior? Would it perhaps be something like criticizing others for driving a conventional car?

Not sure if this is the place to post: has anyone studied age range of genuine first generation of second tier achievers? (My hunch is they’re more interested in attaining 3rd tier before dying rather than coaching first tier church goers)

Laura and Chris not sure if this is helpful for you but it might be. I did a decade long project that built bridges between the post-modern, modern and traditional factions in the Jewish community around the Israeli Palestinian conflict. I did do some work with the churches as well though most of the work was in the Jewish community and we got very far. There’s always more to do of course. a big difference of course was that the main power structures and leadership were traditional and modern and it’s different than within UU. Happy to talk with you and share what I’ve learned. I definitely echo Chris’ wisdom about finding the values that you do connect with and building on them and if this feels like your work hang in because things are changing, and opening. when I started people said no way it’s impossible and yet major breakthroughs happened And other programs around the country have been inspired by what we’ve done in the Bay Area. if it feels like a calling don’t give up. Btw I definitely drew on a lot of Jewish teachings so I would say for you Christian teachings are a great ground. I mean Jesus was ultimately nothing if not inclusive so I think I would build on loving ones neighbor etc. also humility so crucial: everyone’s living in the gap, no one is perfectly embodying the teachings of any tradition. I think this is the work right now and perhaps if you frame it from there u can open some conversations, connections, caring. All blessings 🙏🏼💚🌸

What is an UU? I wish people wouldn’t just assume that we all know what all these acronyms mean.

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7 days ago

Wonderful chat today. As per the original prompt, I had written a blurb as a suggestion to what we could discuss/explore in the future. It didn't seem to fit into the question format so I decided to save it for a post here:

I’d like to suggest a greater examination of the current state of indigenous worldviews and sustainability practices. I believe that many of us who have spent their lives in the colonist/capitalist culture, like myself, can be naturally predisposed to an incomplete view of what these cultures have to offer a future version of humanity. In the integral world, I hear about the gifts of indigenous culture as fitting in to the magic/mythic stage of development. It was not until I began to dive into learning about what is going on in indigenous societies now, that I realized this is only part of the picture. Perhaps inevitably, our colonist-based society has left out some very valuable insights that have little to do with the magic/mythic stage.

For instance, I think that Modernists and Eco-modernists concerned with how we will realistically feed 8 billion people as we transition to more sustainable infrastructure would be interested to learn there is a Professor using Hopi dry-land farming to grow corn in the northern Arizona desert **with no irrigation** or chemicals whatsoever. I think those concerned with housing people would be interested to learn about the Menominee lumber-mill which is producing lumber from an old growth forest, and that their parcel of land has the most healthy and full forest anywhere in the surrounding area.

These accomplishments come as the result of a certain mindset which seems to be “left out of the room” in even some of the most informed western conversations about humanity’s place on earth.

I believe a more full and deliberate integration of certain indigenous wisdom will be a profound revelation for many post-progressives, and it has the potential to really help the Post Progressive Post/alliance stand out in a special way. Not only that, but there is a passionate and diverse community of young people that are very tuned in to this, and opening a dialogue in this direction has the potential to bring more people in that demographic to this movement, as well as provide a mutually beneficial and fruitful exchange of ideas.

As a side note, I could see this taking shape as a guest lecture or just reaching out to other groups in that world. I would be happy to help make this happen if it sounds like something the PPA is interested in.
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I like this suggestion. I nominate Tyson Yunkaporta as a guest lecturer.

2 days ago

Relying upon one's own particular view of Reality yet becoming and remaining flexible and open towards others' views is no easy task. Doing such almost feels necessary yet impossible at the same time, especially if we want to understand from whence we came and evolve in the direction of a more complete vision and immersion into the Real. Paradoxical! ... See MoreSee Less

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It IS a paradox. There is TRUTH in "if you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything." Or Elie Weisel's quote on the importance of taking sides. Yet, understanding a perspective opposite one's own, seeing what motivates it, its value to that person can lead to a better "right action" to counter its negative effects. Very difficult practice!

6 days ago

As far back as I can remember, I have never chosen a belief. I could tell you what I have believed or not believed, and that upon further reflection some of my beliefs have changed. But choosing to believe this or that? Never happened. So, now what? Think about what can be inferred if this is actually the case for all of us. ... See MoreSee Less

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According to the Buddhists, any "belief" we hold on to will inhibit us. But if we think of it more like "intention" it may help us move forward.

it is the case for all of us, we acquire many beliefs other than by choice, consider secret learning, classical conditioning, Of course, not being responsible for your own beliefs certainly gives you a freedom of function the rest of us don't possess. Try to be responsible with it.

That insight is a really big deal, imo.

This reminds me of a saying from a Christian mystic, “Concepts create idols, only wonder grasps anything.” —St. Gregory of Nyssa. I get the spirit of what you’re saying but am having a hard time relating it to my life. Do you have an example of when a person chooses a belief?

In her book "Beyond Belief: The Secret Gospel of Thomas" Elaine Pagels writes about the establishment of the Christian canon and the choice of belief over inner experience. As I see it, we all have beliefs that we have received from our culture. Some hold these beliefs more loosely than others. Beliefs can be changed in response to inner and intersubjective experiences. www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375501568/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_thcv_p1_i2

Thanks 🙏

“Oh, everyone believes In how they think it ought to be , Oh everyone believes And they’re not going easily.” John Mayer

Maybe beliefs are like the training wheels of our consciousness, when we are progressing and maturing through stages of growth at a certain point they can be let go of or taken off when they no longer serve us riding through life in the next stage.

Not sure if I believe anything anymore except that life is suffering and nothing is permanent.

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1 week ago

**Wendell Berry** keeps popping up for me as a healthy Heritage values Traditionalist. He is an author, poet, political activist, agrarian, environmentalist, and Christian pacifist who I believe fits into the healthy Traditionalism, but not in the "God and country" sort of way. He's more of "God and land" guy. His book, Art of the Commonplace was a game-changer for me when I was at the apex of my Evangelicalism. He is deeply critical of modernism, and what's fascinating is that he seems to bridge Traditionalism with Progressive through his environmental work. He makes them both squirm, though—an indication of integral. It makes me wonder if maybe he is a doorway for Progressives to become integral and for Traditionalists to broaden their ethnocentric boundaries. I want to share one of his poems which is possibly my favorite piece of writing:

## Manifesto: The Mad Farmer Liberation Front

by Wendell Berry

Love the quick profit, the annual raise,

vacation with pay. Want more

of everything ready-made. Be afraid

to know your neighbors and to die.

And you will have a window in your head.

Not even your future will be a mystery

any more. Your mind will be punched in a card

and shut away in a little drawer.

When they want you to buy something

they will call you. When they want you

to die for profit they will let you know.

So, friends, every day do something

that won't compute. Love the Lord.

Love the world. Work for nothing.

Take all that you have and be poor.

Love someone who does not deserve it.

Denounce the government and embrace

the flag. Hope to live in that free

republic for which it stands.

Give your approval to all you cannot

understand. Praise ignorance, for what man

has not encountered he has not destroyed.

Ask the questions that have no answers.

Invest in the millennium. Plant sequoias.

Say that your main crop is the forest

that you did not plant,

that you will not live to harvest.

Say that the leaves are harvested

when they have rotted into the mold.

Call that profit. Prophesy such returns.

Put your faith in the two inches of humus

that will build under the trees

every thousand years.

Listen to carrion — put your ear

close, and hear the faint chattering

of the songs that are to come.

Expect the end of the world. Laugh.

Laughter is immeasurable. Be joyful

though you have considered all the facts.

So long as women do not go cheap

for power, please women more than men.

Ask yourself: Will this satisfy

a woman satisfied to bear a child?

Will this disturb the sleep

of a woman near to giving birth?

Go with your love to the fields.

Lie easy in the shade. Rest your head

in her lap. Swear allegiance

to what is nighest your thoughts.

As soon as the generals and the politicos

can predict the motions of your mind,

lose it. Leave it as a sign

to mark the false trail, the way

you didn't go. Be like the fox

who makes more tracks than necessary,

some in the wrong direction.

Practice resurrection.
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This is my favorite poem of his as well. His book Jayber Crow was like a bible to me some years back. Interesting thoughts on how he might be a bridge for some.

My favorite poem too!!

I fully agree with your take on Wendell Berry--a bridge between Traditionalism and Progressivism in the Integral vein. He has long been one of my favorite contemporary poets, but I was not familiar with this powerful poem. Thanks so much for sharing it!

Rigel Thurston Beautiful! Thank you for sharing this. I do love a bridge that connects the divide AND makes both sides squirm a bit.

I like the bridge between traditionalism and progressivism...Cool. Also, we ALL need to get used to "squirming" and struggling and being confused and offended...and then being friggin grown-ups about it. Nice post.

I agree about Berry being a healthy version of traditionalism.

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5 days ago

The Institute for Cultural Evolution is a partner in the **Shaping An Omni-American Future** online event taking place on October 24th and 25th. This event is being put on by the American Sephardi Federation, the Jazz Leadership Project, and the Combat Antisemitism Movement, and is going to feature artists and thinkers who are inspired to create a more unitive approach to anti-racism based on the teachings of Albert Murray and Ralph Ellison. Our very own Greg Thomas and Amiel Handelsman will be presenting at the event along with a host of other public leaders in this space that we admire, including John Wood Jr., Chloé Valdary, and Thomas Chatterton Williams. This free event promises to be a watershed moment in the evolution of our national conversation about race and culture in America, and we are proud to be partners. You can register at the link below:

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The Institute for Cultural Evolution is a partner in the **Shaping An Omni-American Future** online event taking place on October 24th and 25th. This event is being put on by the American Sephardi Federation, the Jazz Leadership Project, and the Combat Antisemitism Movement, and is going to feature artists and thinkers who are inspired to create a more unitive approach to anti-racism based on the teachings of Albert Murray and Ralph Ellison. Our very own Greg Thomas and Amiel Handelsman will be presenting at the event along with a host of other public leaders in this space that we admire, including John Wood Jr., Chloé Valdary, and Thomas Chatterton Williams. This free event promises to be a watershed moment in the evolution of our national conversation about race and culture in America, and we are proud to be partners. You can register at the link below:

http://event.omniamerican.org

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5 days ago

A post-progressive look at our progressive newspaper of record ... See MoreSee Less

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Jeff - You are such a breath of fresh air!

Money Quote: "There is only so much mouse poop you are allowed to put in your cereal"

2 weeks ago

Why do folks think so many in the integral community avoid discussing the pandemic? ... See MoreSee Less

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Yes! I’ve been wanting some kind of breakdown from all four quadrants perspectives. That would be awesome, also some perspective on the mandates 🙂

I am trying to avoid it at here at the Post-Progressive Facebook Group because it is a culture war Rorschach test that often leads to unproductive caustic dialogue.

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“I really appreciated the use of gay marriage as an example of win-win-win policy solutions because it shows how people with different approaches to political issues can still align on values. In speaking to my friends about using this value integration technique I realized that it can be helpful to use value as a verb, rather than a noun. When you look at value as a verb, as in ‘what do we all value?’, it really does become possible for traditionalists, modernists, and progressives to value a lot of the same things.”

– Scott Kirby